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So I finally got to skate on the AR1s and Arius plate today. I'm usually on Bont/Invaders, and the change to the longer plate and heavier boot was a bit weird at first.

The boot is a strange thing to me because it's so heavy and padded and I feel very aware of it on my foot, where i'm so used to my Bonts being tight and light and just an extension of my foot. I'm not a huge fan of it so far, but it's not anything to get mad over. It's a decent skate boot, but I'm not sure I would skate it full time. A bit too much like strapping bricks to my feet. I'm not sure how anyone with a heavy plate lasts on them.

The plate though... this interests me. It's so light. The weight of the boot is counteracted by how light the plate is- the set up is lighter then my Bont set up, which I was not expecting. I compared it to a Bont/Avenger set up that was a few sizes bigger and they seemed similar.

Even with my struggles to get the darn things apart, I like this plate. It's simple in that its action all comes from the cushions and it can't really be adjusted past those. I am rolling the light blue cushions, which are the softest that I have, but I'd almost like to see softer ones.
I like a lot of action and play on my skates, and I found it's almost not enough for me. Even with it, after a few laps skating with it, I got it to do what I want. It takes very little effort to turn or stop on this plate and it reacts to every little bit.
I found I was able to do some small things in it that I can't in my Invaders (like spread eagle propelling, which I was never able to get my Bonts to do, but could do the foot work, where in the Arius, being able to turn my toes was enough to make the plate work).
I am a fan of this plate so far. It answers so well to my foot! I'd love to stick it on my Bont and see what magic it would do. Responsive plate on a boot that fits perfectly- what more could you ask for? I think if you really want a DA45 (even though it claims not to be, the angle is basically a 33, there's no denying it.)

I used the normal wheels I do on our floor, Radar Villains, and I think I want to go harder so I'm going to try the Bont wheels with it on Sunday. I think a bit more slide on the wheels will counteract the tightness of the action. I see this is a pretty common "issue" with the plate for people who like play, where as people who like a bit tighter don't think there's any issue with it being too tight, those who want it to be soft don't think its soft enough.

I still can't get the toe stops off (I have stripped the allen wrench place on both plates now. Whoops Sorry Nathan!), so I just got used to the higher toe stops. I think if I could put this plate on my Bonts with my Bionic toe stops, it would be an incredible set up.

I've only skated it for about an hour before practice, and then hitting practice, so I can't wait to test it a bit more. We're bench marking on Sunday and I plan on wearing it for part of that to see how it goes through the motions. I'm really excited to scrimmage in it.

I'm gonna keep posting about it, even if y'all don't care, because I feel like it =)
That was also my experience...responsive, but stable. The boots were also a big departure for me, so it wasn't really comparing apples to apples. I would also have loved to try these plates on my bonts. If only the holes had lined up!! Lol.
But I still really enjoyed them. They do feel very different!
You finally got the cushions changed?


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Nope, I didnt get them changed. The light blue are still on there. According to the chart, they go
"Light Blue (softest)
Yellow-Green
Royal Blue
Red (hardest)"

So the blue are the softest that come with it...I'd almost want something softer. Im actually glad I wasnt able to change them haha. I gave up. Pretty much anything that requires effort ends up defeating me. I'm starting to think the allen wrench is the defective part, so im going to look for my wrenches tomorrow and hope that I have that size. For some reason I own like 30 allen wrenches haha

I'd really like to try these out short forward. I think they'd be a hell of a plate not in 'skateboard' format.
Well, If you skate boarded pools and bowl parks back in the 1970's you would know all about this set up. The Aris design. It ruled then.

The actual action bolt is 45 degrees from the plate surface.

What this design accomplishes is real stable straight line speed. But very little quick turning action. You must compress the cushion to turn and all the force is in one spot. Side loaded.

On the skateboards in the parks and bowls,the radius of the park does the turns for you,just like skating on a Bank Track Derby. The bank guides you around. Not a lot of action needed etc.

The only draw back ever from this design is the vibrations. You are not riding on the cushion. So on a sport court with hard wheels you will get some fatigue.

They are simple,rugged and light weight. But,they will never ever turn as tight or easy as DA45. The 45 degree Aris king pin mount will raise the rear wheels of your plate under real hard truing action.

The design replicates a motorcycle frame and fork assembly,when you turn the handlebars at slow speed,the forks turn on the frame neck degree,when going straight you lean over,not much turning of the fork assembly.

Back in the late 70's early 80's a few Skate Board shops were modifying the cushion rubber,taking it out and replacing with small coil springs. Something we have also done on single action skate plates. Use coils springs in place of the urethane cushions. A spring has memory and compresses in a linear manner. You can manufacture them where they are progressive,move real easy in the first section then stiffen the farther you compress it. Simple to add tension with a nut.

If there is a manufacture (we tried Carr Lane) that would make coil spring replacements in a variety of sizes and LBS for the weight of the skater,it would change the skate world for ever.
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Curq, can I post this on Derby Gear Advice? I've been getting a ton of questions about these plates and haven't had much in the way of reviews.

On another note, I kind of want to try these guys.

Do you think it would have been better to have a shorter plate or is it fine as long as it is?
(02-21-2014, 08:28 AM)ShellLillian Wrote: [ -> ]Curq, can I post this on Derby Gear Advice? I've been getting a ton of questions about these plates and haven't had much in the way of reviews.

On another note, I kind of want to try these guys.

Do you think it would have been better to have a shorter plate or is it fine as long as it is?

Shell, Could you post a link back to Derbysmack when you talk about the plate?

By the way, do you want to try them next?
(02-21-2014, 09:01 AM)nathan_ Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-21-2014, 08:28 AM)ShellLillian Wrote: [ -> ]Curq, can I post this on Derby Gear Advice? I've been getting a ton of questions about these plates and haven't had much in the way of reviews.

On another note, I kind of want to try these guys.

Do you think it would have been better to have a shorter plate or is it fine as long as it is?

Shell, Could you post a link back to Derbysmack when you talk about the plate?

By the way, do you want to try them next?

No problem =]

And hell yeah I'd like to try them. Still getting my skating legs back but I'd love to try them out and write up a review.
Shell, I'll write up a full review of them once I've actually gotten to skate them a lot more, and then you can post it for sure!

And I said it up above, I think this plate would be great shorter. If it's that responsive as a longer plate, i think it'd be great shorter!
I really want to try those plates out, but the lack of suspension options has them off the table for me for now.

I used to play derby in 395s or 811s, so when I had a chance to try an Antik, I was not too into it. I can see if you wanted more ankle support it would be a good boot for you, but I felt like it was too constrictive compared to what I was used to wearing. I remember I didn't even tie them and they would still not come off of my feet very easily. Maybe if I spent some time with a pair my view would change, but as they are I'm thinking they would make great ice skates for me. Smile
(02-21-2014, 01:39 PM)Curq Wrote: [ -> ]Shell, I'll write up a full review of them once I've actually gotten to skate them a lot more, and then you can post it for sure!

And I said it up above, I think this plate would be great shorter. If it's that responsive as a longer plate, i think it'd be great shorter!

I read that bit and then completely forgot it after.
Thanks!
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